Guns in schools

Dateline: Mon 24 Mar 2014

Eric Weddle and Maureen Groppe of the Indy Star delivered a good behind-the-scenes article on the controversial bill that would allow guns on school parking lots in locked cars in Indiana. The piece was published on Page 1 last Friday.

The bottom line is that Gov. Pence will certainly sign the measure, based on his support of the National Rifle Association and the amount he's received from that group in donations. Follow the money: he will listen to the gun lobby rather than the concerns of educators:

"Young people, schools, guns and all that is a mix for something inappropriate," says IPS head Dr. Lewis Ferebee, quoted in the Star. "Anytime you have firearms on campus you are at risk for compromising safety and that is something we definitely want to avoid."

Another educator, Todd Bess, says a better course would be to let each school district draw up its own rules, but that won't happen, he acknowledges.

This is all about how many bullets can spin on the head of a pin; the bill was born when a gun-toting dad was arrested last year in Greenfield for leaving his weapon in his vehicle. So as I understand it, the fact that one gun-owner's rights were somehow compromised in his view leads us to open the floodgates of weapons on school property. 

That is just nuts.

Thanks for the Star for going deeper into the background of this crazy bill.


hendy [Member] said:

Follow the money. Where that fails, follow the sex drive. Where that fails, roll dice.

If the Second Amendment is valid-- and it is-- you check the sanity of people in possession of weapons first. Being sane, possession ought to be ok under these circumstances. But we don't check sanity, and sanity is transient.

2014-03-24 10:55:06

Paul K. Ogden [unverified] said:

Hendy, what money? There is no money in this issue. Rather has to do with basic fairness. Why are we making felons out of licensed gun owners who have a gun locked away in their car parked on school property.

2014-03-24 13:28:28

hendy [Member] said:

Ummm, no. There are the NRA campaign contributions in this issue. If they only argued their point, they get to do that. The contributions, at state or local election level, howver, muddies the water.

We need to exclude felons, the mentally unstable, and those with restraining orders from owning or being able to obtain weapons in any rational way. This means Knife and Gun Expos, private purchases, online, or through dealers that must also vet the purchase through a database of felons, and those classes of individuals that are legally unable to purchase them.

Then, and only then, am I happy with licensed gun owners, now a class of vetted individuals, bringing weapons on school grounds, bars, and so forth. The law is very clear about Don't Bring Guns To School Property, and so becoming an illegal possessor of a weapon is possible, so if you're a gun owner, don't do it. Easy as that.

2014-03-24 15:04:22

Parent [unverified] said:

Those who forget the past are destined to repeat it. Columbine. Scary thing is it wasn't THAT long ago.

2014-03-29 08:56:08

Duke Young [unverified] said:

Are we supposed to believe that a "No Guns in the Parking Lot" rule would have stopped the Columbine Killers. There is a gun problem in our country, but the anti-gunners have no workable solutions they dare talk about.

2014-03-29 15:59:58

Parent [unverified] said:

Columbine. Virginia Tech. Sandy Hook. Fort Hood. Any form of prevention is worth it to me. There's been no-guns-on-school-grounds laws for a reason. Who do you work for, Duke? Pence or Don?

2014-03-30 15:58:13

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